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Post by furbuy46 on Apr 1, 2008 11:37:14 GMT -5
Fellas I just received a letter from American botanicals, Allen Lockard is saying that he does not want to buy any Goldenseal root this season. If this is the case, it is not going to help the seal mkt. one bit. Allen is a big collecter of seal and without him in the mkt. it is going to weaken the mkt. This will be the first time in my root buying career that I have seen a major buyer say he was not going to buy Goldenseal/
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Post by doyleflory on Apr 1, 2008 14:28:00 GMT -5
Damm that is scary.I wounder what is up with that.
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Post by furbuy46 on Apr 1, 2008 14:47:23 GMT -5
I have another person I been selling seal to. When I get the time I am going to see where he stands on this. From what Allen says, he has to much on hand and says that he has got to run to many tests on the product. He also states that if he buys any roots and they are to dirty, that the buyer or the digger will have to suffer from him cleaning the root.
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Post by DaveM on Apr 1, 2008 15:37:56 GMT -5
That is a surprise, as it has been fairly valuable the past couple years.
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Post by K9Wolfer on Apr 1, 2008 17:23:13 GMT -5
Yup but when Commercial Sang up north in Wisconsin got so cheap like $10-$12 per pound and probably less now... They started growing goldenseal under artificial shade.
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Post by K9Wolfer on Apr 1, 2008 20:42:26 GMT -5
Goldenseal has been the focus of a great deal of research regarding its effectiveness as animmune system stimulant. Restrictions on wild harvesting and the desire for higherconcentrations of bioactives continue to drive demand for a high-quality cultivated material.Overharvesting of naturally occurring populations has landed goldenseal on the CITES list
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Post by K9Wolfer on Apr 1, 2008 20:43:52 GMT -5
PricingPrice for wild harvested goldenseal fluctuates significantly from harvest season to harvestseason. The price of cultivated product changes less, but in a higher price range. In 2001,wild harvested material traded in a range of $28-$30 per pound of dried root, while, high-quality, cultivated material traded in a range of $32-$38 per pound of dried root. Currentprices paid for high-quality, cultivated material range from $35-$45 per pound of dried root
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Post by furbuy46 on Apr 1, 2008 20:50:49 GMT -5
K9 not to be disagreable, but I was told by Allen that he would rather have the wild product over the cultivated crap. He always told me that most of the cultivated did not have the correct amt. of strength to it because it was grown to quickly.
I also have not heard one thing about seal being on the CITIES list. I think your state started a thing back a few yrs. ago that the digger or the buyer had to keep a record of the seal they dug or sold. That is not a federal mandate, that was state. Unless seal has been put on the CITIEs act the last 3 months, I know nothing about it what so ever. I just sold seal in Dec. and was not required to fill out any CITIEs paperwork nor did the buyer I sold to, ask for any.
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Post by K9Wolfer on Apr 1, 2008 21:04:14 GMT -5
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Post by furbuy46 on Apr 2, 2008 0:01:10 GMT -5
That whole thing sounds a bit fishy to me. Not every bit of it, but a lot of it. It sounds to me like it is a bunch of growers trying to snow the general public on the true value of cultivated seal. I have talked to allen several times about buying lg. quantities of cultivated seal and his reply for the most part was, stay awat from it unless your positive it is good seal. He always told me that once we bought some, he would have to run a test on the stuff to see if it could come up to par. He also never offed anymore for cultivated than he did wild. I speak from experience with Allen. I have sold him thousands of lbs. of seal. He always liked my seal because I made my diggers clean it very nice. He always told me that I handled some of the best sea in the country. There may be a little to the CITIEs thing, but not much at this time. I could tell you a lot about seal and the overseas mkt. on it but I just ain't gonna typ that much stuff.l
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Post by K9Wolfer on Apr 2, 2008 8:18:42 GMT -5
I'd be interested in what facts you can supply you can PM me anytime. Im fortunate that the farm here has huge wild patches of seal on it..... First discovered it back in 1976.
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Post by K9Wolfer on Apr 2, 2008 8:21:02 GMT -5
Aint that something you have to test goldenseal root for its chemical properties.
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Post by furbuy46 on Apr 2, 2008 9:24:02 GMT -5
That is one reason the buyers never did like to buy spring dug seal. It never quite measured up to par on the chemical analyisis. They still always bought the stuff at the same price though. It is fairly easy to tell spring dug root in a batch of seal, but not easy to get it all out of the batch.
Also I never heard anything about testing the chemical makeup of wild seal. It seemed to have all the characteristics that the buyers needed. Something about the forest floor having all the needed chemicals to supply the root whereas the cultivated stuff always had to have the necessary chemicals added to it by the growers. The buyers always liked the organic stuff much better than the fertilized root.
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Post by K9Wolfer on Apr 2, 2008 16:56:36 GMT -5
Anyone digging spring root is basically ripping their own self off, I dont do that and never will.
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Post by furbuy46 on Apr 2, 2008 23:21:43 GMT -5
yepper it can take 5-7 lbs to make one lb. of dry rootwhere in the fall that can drop from 3 1/2 in sept. to 2 3/4 in early nov. maybe better. I seen one time where I dug some the first week of nov. and it weighed at 2 1/2 green to 1 lb. dry. A rare thing though.
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