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Post by Rwaddell on Apr 9, 2008 8:57:41 GMT -5
Gibb, Could you help explain the problems we are facing with the coyote market and what you see happening over the next year or two with this product?
Thanks.
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gibb
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Post by gibb on Apr 9, 2008 10:38:01 GMT -5
Coyotes, are not really my thing but I will try my best.
Right now the main market for coyote skins is trim on cloth coats. Some select westerns my be used for garments but still for the most part only a trim article.
This is were fashion drives the market. If the coyotes were in fashion for garments the price would rise. The top end of the market for the better goods would be much stronger. With very few orders for garments the price drops.
Right now the price of coon is up because the Chinese are using this article for trim and other countries are buying for garments.
If you recall their was a lot of controversy over dog fur in the market, because of that fallout, fashion has moved away from coyotes. We also see the same problem with beaver prices. The large sizes of shear-able quality which is the top end of the market were used for garments. Montreal was the main taker for this size and quality goods. The manufacturing trade in Montreal has been out of the market the last 2 seasons so the price of beaver is poor.
You need to have a strong garment market to give the article a higher price structure. When your biggest and best goods sell for 50 dollars you only have one way to go.
At times in the marketing season such as February you will see prices jump up because you have all the buyers from both garments and trim competing at once. On the very next sale you will see the prices drop off because garment buyers filled their limited orders and are out of the market.
In order for an article to have any price depth in the market you need to have it in fashion, you need it to be used in full garments and you need to have the trim trade buying the more commercial type skins.
Coyotes will be a rough go for the next while. The eastern coyote sole primary usage is trim If the garment industry starts to buy the best western coyotes the market base will rise and the overall coyote market will improve. At the moment this is not happening.
Hope this was what you were asking about. Cheers Jim
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Post by bobwendt on Apr 9, 2008 11:00:49 GMT -5
makes us losing our $100 live market all the more devastating financially ,and also for the coyotes too. now mange/distemper/etc will make whatever atrocities are alleged in the live market seem like childs play in comparison to a "natural" death. no old folks home for coyotes. we used to argue that to hsus instead of our dnr . it`s sickening to see what is happening.
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Post by Rwaddell on Apr 9, 2008 13:21:35 GMT -5
Gibb, Will dried coyotes keep long term (3-5 years) in cold storage (baled) and still dress ok?
Some of us are in positions where we have to harvest / kill fairly large numbers of coyotes so we need to figure out what to do with them.
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Post by gibb on Apr 9, 2008 13:53:24 GMT -5
Yes a certain percentage will not, but overall you can stor them. My best advise is to sell what you can in the better goods and hold the more commerical types and do not even skin the low end skins. The best sale for coyotes has been the FEB/MAR. sales.
Trying to play the market is the same as chasing the stock market. When you hear that one stock is up by the time you ship the market goes down. Robert are talking eastern skins or western skins? Cheers Jim
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Post by Rwaddell on Apr 9, 2008 14:33:49 GMT -5
Gibb, Western coyotes, a majority are semi-heavies with about 20% grading heavy. These are not "silkies", they are a south western high country coyote which is "course" compared to the silkies.
I have been marketing in the Feb / Mar sales. After commission and tumbling fees this year was only looking at about a $26.50 average.
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